LEXIS 1487. If there were no gun or knives people would use whatever will work whether that be glass bottle, a motor vehicle, baseball bat, fork you name it, it can prob be used to inflict damage upon another person. I try with God’s grace to live my life based on Biblical principles which do not talk about earthly freedoms as a virtue. And is it still illigal? ), the state supreme court ruled in 2012(?) In Washington State, conceal carry is permitted if you have a valid State approved CCP. All carry is illegal as alarm does not require intent. Kind of wild west isn’t it? outside of official state militias and a few other exceptions, no organized body is allowed to conduct itself as a military company or organize or parade in public with firearms (RCW 38.40.120). That list is below. maybe if you had a friendly, respectful group. Depends on judge/ jury I guess. (2) “Spring blade knife” means any knife, including a prototype, model, or other sample, with a blade that is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement. I undarstand that it IS legal to carry a switchblade knife if you are law enforcement, a first responder or active duty military in uniform. It is legal to open carry any type of weapon, so long as it is not carried in a way that may cause others alarm. App. Also, I agree that if you have a conceal carry for a gun that should cover knives. there is a difference between the appeals court ruling and the Supreme court ruling in state v Byrd and in state v Byrd, the Supreme court of Washington reversed Byrd’s conviction and sent the case along for a new trial with new jury instructions. I own a Benchmade Infidel with about a 3″ blade that snaps open when I push the slide forward, and snaps closed when I push the slide backwards. Washington State Knife and Fun Carry Laws are so wishy washy. With that new title it limits what can be carried. The blade does not come out abruptly at any point, and the unfolding is completely manual, just technically made a little easier by a spring. In fact, the longer the blade, the easier it is to simply break off the blade. Concealed Carry: Washington law provides that it is a crime to "furtively carry . I came to this Website really to find out the “Length” of knives that are legal to carry. The problem is that, unfortunately, the more liberal mentality runs straight up the West coast from Southern California, right up to Vancouver Island, Canada. Re: Washington State Knife Laws Post by bladebum » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:20 am I haven't seen any specific in the WA State laws, BUT, # 2 below is always the gray area, got ya clause. Legal or illegal. And what age do I need to require? I agree Nick! Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Does this make some of my clients and I on the wrong side of the law? “Washington DC gun laws now operate on a “Shall Issue” policy after a ruling by the US Court of Appeals, the decision is FINAL! There is an ordinance in Seattle prohibiting carry of fixed blade knives regardless of length (SMC 12A.14.080 B “Dangerous Knives”). It is better to be alive than an unprepared victim. Carry concealed at your own risk! As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men. the 2nd amendment has never been interpreted by the courts to guarantee an individual or private right to organize a militia, and in fact it seems to encourage legal regulation of militias. ILLOGICAL! They do.). Neither political party is perfect, but the Dems stand for everything exactly the opposite to what I believe (tough weapons laws, pro-abortion, anti-traditional family, etc.). I hate this. I am friends with a 1%er MC and they all open carry fixed blades. A pocket knife is one of the most useful tools anyone can carry . Washington D.C. You get used to doing it, then one day it rains so you put on a coat. I sometimes make custom weapons and armor. (I personally prefer pockets but if concealing them in public is a crime then I’m wondering if a sheath counts as “concealment”). There is at least one city (I don’t recall which offhand) in this country where it is legal to own a firearm and keep it in your home, but you cannot have it on your person in your yard, or even in your (attached) garage. I am perfectly able to carry a pocket knife over 3.5 inches in Kitsap county but if I cross the city limits into Bremerton or Seattle they both have length laws of 3 or 3.5 inches. the single blade is 1 3/4 inches long. In this crazy state, the answer is probably, yes Frank. Washington State knife laws are vague and difficult to piece together. Basically, anything that is there to keep a knife blade closed is OK, but it is NOT legal to have something that will assist OPENING the blade. Just be cool, OK? NO.1 can not be true. A man was stabbed to death on Tuesday, Oct. 23. Can I put it in my pocket? Craigslist and letgo are great platforms for selling as well as if you can get into some knife pages. In reading through the law and how the court has ruled in the past, your conclusion seems to be correct. Democrats typically do have policies directly opposed to scriptural principles (that’s not my opinion, it’s actually a fact), but that’s a whole different topic altogether. Jackasmacka…It is legal to carry a kabar, or large bowie knife openly around Washington State. The Supreme Court looked to the dictionary for a definition of furtively, which means secretly. I see your point in the absurdity of the law, but it is not all the left wings fault you see. It is all silly. There is no specific length limit in state law, fixed or folding, which is unfortunately not preemptive. I have been to many types of faires where multiple people are carrying around dirks, daggers, axes and a variety of swords……..personally, I haven’t a problem with such an environment but isn’t that still breaking the law? Illegal Knives. Open carry is perfectly fine as long as your weapon isn’t displayed in such a way that could be perceived as a reasonable threat. Does Washington State have a restriction as to to length of a folding pocket knife blade? Schools: Knives and other dangerous weapons prohibited on school grounds. From unclear statutes that seemingly ban knives outright for the purposes of concealed carry to murky interpretations of common words and legal concepts including where your own home begins and ends, Washington proves once more there is no place so promising and beautiful that Leftist leadership can’t screw it up for everyone. We do not need silly push button knife laws and a host of related hysteria prohibitions that do nothing more than reducing our individual rights even further. . While I don’t think an evil dictatorship is a good thing, I also don’t see freedom on this earth per se, as a virtue to be sought after with blood and fury. When I spoke to my local court system about it, seeing as I owned one, I showed him my knife (he was willing to come out to my truck to see it), and he told me it was fully legal to EDC. Pocket Knife Laws In The State of Washington, United States. a military base), or live in Washington DC. Last week, on January 25, Knife Rights’ Director of Legislative Affairs gave testimony at the state capitol in Olympia, Washington, in support of two similar pro-knife bills. Our schools, court houses, hospitals, airports, etc must be protected and secure. I’m not seeing anything in a quick glance at state law, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t miss something. Rest calm. And at the same time I believe that when you aren’t allowed to defend yourself you will lose freedoms as well. Stores aren’t required to check your legality to own. The D.C. Court of Appeals analysis was that the butterfly knife was a deadly or dangerous weapon under either alternative. As I pointed out, if he was comparing legal knife ownership to illegal gun acquisition and ownership, the comparison is unfair and is pointless (it doesn’t make sense to discuss the burdens imposed on a legal activity – knife collection – by complaining that others conduct another activity – illegal firearms sales – without similar burdens). I always length was the major difference, but according to the article, size isn’t even mentioned. Is a sword cane (sword concealed within a walking cane) illegal within the state as a whole? Depends on city and county mostly. i used to live in washington and im going back up for christmas and i was looking this up because i wanted to know if id get in trouble for carrying my pocket knife because where i currently life the law is anyone can legally carry a pocket knife if the blade is 3.5 inches or shorter, There is no length limit in state law. The court shall send notice of the revocation to the department of licensing, and the city, town, or county which issued the license. SPD is quite happy to bust people for it, too. While you could legally walk around with a .50 Desert Eagle openly carried on your belt without any permit, if you are carrying a 4″ paring knife, you would be arrested. A knife that is legal to carry in Spokane may not be in Seattle. Note that I am not a lawyer, but I would say you’re OK in a camping / hunting environment. He got himself a super nice knife. . Editor’s note: This article originally appeared in the July/August 1994 issue of BLADE magazine.. The latch is a necessary part of the knife, to keep it from opening until you want it to. If I saw someone with a knife I’d be more inclined to inquire about it because I am a weapon collector and enthusiast. Carry a folder, bad hands. On your belt, on your pack. In theory, yes. I believe that others have indicated that there are no length requirements at the state level itself. @Nate G. Pretty much, Welcome to Washington. If one has a concealed permit is any of this a concern??? A knife has very many uses, many of which have nothing to do with defense. In spite of the results of many studies showing that those who wish to harm another person (gang members, enraged citizens or serial killers) are the ones that will obtain a weapon illegally and use it no matter the laws, and law-abiding citizens who would not harm anyone, are forced to give up their knives/guns, the laws still continue to harm good people, and have no effect on bad people. You see, I’m not all about “freedom shouldn’t be infringed upon”. No distinction is made whether open or concealed. Concealed carry is illegal without a CCW regardless of the weapon. Paid Subscribers don't see ads! Look in the Washington Administrative Code (WAC) for the specifics. a) “Military member” means an active member of the United States military or naval forces, or a Washington national guard member called to active duty or during training. Please be a rich person with a good lawyer who can get busted for this and fight it to the state supreme court. Some cops/security let you carry stuff while at other fairs, they only allow performers to have such weapons and then they can only unsheath their weapon at specific times for a limited amount of time and then package the swords/knives very securely in the car trunk for the trip home. ” or with a blade that opens, falls, or is ejected by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal movement (spinning the knife).” doesn’t include balisongs? I used to take Prozac and I still take other anti-depressants, but I personally find 0 alarm in a knife. There are a handful of questions from Vancouver Washington all on the subject of knives lately, it may be that the answer has already been provided. As long as it isnt a switchblade youre fine …I have even seen knives for sale on Craigslist in the collectable section. (2) “Spring blade knife” means any knife, including a prototype, model, or other sample, with a blade that is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement. You can read all about this sorry state of affairs in RCW 9.41.250: (a) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife; (b) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or. Chapter 9.41 RCW: Firearms and dangerous weapons; RCW 9.41.110: Firearms dealers license; RCW 9.41.070: Concealed pistol license; WAC 308-500-010: Semiautomatic assault rifle fee Is it illegal to own a balisong in Washington? And carrying concealed seems the best way to carry them. So a knife on your belt in summer is ok, but come fall or evening or that matter, you slip on a jacket . Remember what happened to that poor, old deaf Indian wood carver in Seattle a few years back, shot by some overzealous Seattle robocop because he was crossing a street carving on a piece of wood. You’d better remember to take it off or you could get into a lot of trouble. How many people even know the names of their police chiefs or sheriffs. The Evergreen State is surprisingly restrictive when it comes to knives. are they legal to purchase / posses/ sell? You kind of just defeated yourself with your circular saw analogy. Pocket Knife Laws In The State of Washington, United States. I mushroom hunt in the woods and prefer a kitchen knife to cut them off.? I never refer my pocket knife as a weapon. I’ve never been able to open a pocket knife. Unless one is actively employed with a law enforcement agency, fire department, emergency medical service (EMT, etc.) RCW 9.95.040 - Defines what "deadly weapon" means for felons. Wouldn’t the US Constitution on Militias override this? The state then appealed to the Supreme Court of Washington. How old do you have to be to buy a knife in WA? Sep 13, 2008 #1. smoked1. Is he in deep doo-doo if some punks come along and try to accost or rob him and he pulls his sword out to poke some holes in the punks? Also, you need to be careful of the child protective laws here too. Washington is a state full of hazy, uncertain laws when it comes to the ownership and carry of many types of knife. WHAT in the world is ‘so long as it is not carried in a way that may cause others alarm’ this could mean anything…. The last sentence is a clarification on what constitutes a ‘spring blade knife’. Washington Knife Laws. (It should be noted that both of these cases involved idiots claiming a 2A right to carry around a paring knife which the courts ruled was not a weapon protected by 2A. I sometimes strap a kbar over my right hip when camping. One of the firemen came up to me and told me that I should conceal “that pig sticker” before a police officer see’s it, because it is illegal to carry. From this section we see that it is also a crime to “furtively carry with intent to conceal” any dagger or dirk, or any other dangerous weapon, included in which common knives of all kinds must surely be since they can all, nearly without exception, cause lethal wounds. According to federal law, the only knife that can be carried in a federal facility (like a federal courthouse or federal building) is a pocket knife with a blade less than 2.5” long. All i would like to know, is that the knife I LEGALLY bought in washington, that was intended by design to be holstered to a belt, can be carried from town to town LEGALLY whilst attached to belt. If the left gets their way, there will be 4 week waiting periods for a slingshot. The truth of the matter is, Washington has some rather confusing knife laws that seem lenient but under certain circumstances can be very strict. Within twenty-four hours of the arrest, the arresting law enforcement agency shall refer the person to the designated crisis responder for examination and evaluation under chapter 71.05 or 71.34 RCW and inform a parent or guardian of the person of the arrest, detention, and examination. Washington State is an exemplar of restrictive laws on the ownership and use of arms, and knives are no exception. So, do I vote for the group that denies my freedom to protect myself but gives a type of freedom to others that have been persecuted; or do I vote for the group that would remove peoples freedoms to choose what type of life they want to live but allow them to carry a tool to protect themselves (mostly as there have been several laws in the past that targeted removing guns from minorities but I think we are almost past that). Let’s not resort to name-calling! I have been with them numerous times as we were harassed by the cops, but no one ever mentioned the knives that were in plain sight, although they did scrutinize our concealed carry gun permits. In addition, you can sharpen pencils (the term pen knife refers back to the days of quill pens, which had to be cut occasionally to use as a pen), clean fingernails, use when fishing or hunting. It is also illegal to carry or display a dagger, sword, knife, or other cutting or stabbing instrument in a manner or under circumstances that would cause alarm or show an intent to intimidate another. Any knife is nominally allowed, see below, Statutes unclear; potentially no knife allowed for concealed carry, Switchblades and gravity knives; assisted opening okay. A butterfly knife opens with a centrifugal movement, so it is _clearly_ with the ambit of unlawful carry or possession by Revised Code of Washington § 9.41.250. They fired that cop but I wouldn’t be surprised he got another robocop job somewhere else. The constitution has been null and void for at least 100 years. are those legal to own or carry or what? Just because you can buy something doesn’t make it legal. These laws go against the right to keep and especially BEAR arms. Does a waistband style sheath count as concealed? A very popular type of knife right now is the assisted opening knife. Where should I look for good ones and good help? Ex: yes or no. So you never mentioned Karambit knives, and I might buy one and am studying the laws about them. Hey Ray; Thanks for the question. When the legislature fails to define a term, the Court will generally use the plain English meaning of the word, which is the meaning giving by Webster’s dictionary. The blade opens on a single pivot which can easily snap off. On display at the Alexandria Masonic Lodge in Alexandria, Virginia, is a simple penknife. It is legal to open carry any type of weapon, so long as it is not carried in a way that may cause alarm. I’d check with your local court, if there is one. A butterfly knife, also called a Balisong knife, is considered dangerous and illegal in some states because it can be easily used as a deadly weapon. Ultimately I don’t care much about freedoms to carry guns and knives as much as the freedom to worship my God. No spin for the win!) The only difference is that you seem to think that other peoples freedoms should be infringed upon as they aren’t what you are interested in. Knife laws in WA are not preempted as gun laws are. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he at least was trying to make sense, and just happened to be wrong, rather than considering that he was not just wrong, but being nonsensical too. Not disagreeing in the slightest just saying tone it back a little. (b) “General law enforcement agency” means any agency, department, or division of a municipal corporation, political subdivision, or other unit of local government of this state or any other state, and any agency, department, or division of any state government, having as its primary function the detection and apprehension of persons committing infractions or violating the traffic or criminal laws in general. Guess I’ll toss a quick political comment in here, too. That really makes me laugh. Most of my friends have been independent-to-liberal from the start, but all of them, even the ones who used to vote republican, have turned Democrat in disgust at the hypocrisy, corporate toadying, bigotry, and callousness that now drive every trend in the Republican Party. By what logic would a 15 round semi-auto .45 be reasonable but a 5″ folding knife NOT ok to carry concealed? If you live within the city limits of a city, you will need to check the local ordinances online, to be sure. Does anyone know if a “Fixed Blade” is considered a “Dirk” or “Dagger”? Quick Legal Facts Statewide Preemption: No. “Any street corner” is an exaggeration in any city in America, and his comparison of legal knives with illegal guns is dishonest anyway! My rights are non negotiable, anyone using any “law” or other excuse to try to infringe upon them deserves to be resisted and defeated with whatever force is nessicary. It is sharp on both sides. Who knew? It seems only foreigners in protected cities have these special rights! VMC 7.11.010 - Defines some knife terms. As the State has nothing that restricts knives, many cities do. The laws are vague and impossible to really understand here. Would that be illegal? I’ve moved to WA when I was younger from CT and all I’ve noticed since being out here is that the average person is a baby. Very few, if any crimes were committed with such “weapons”. Illegal: It is illegal to own a switchblade or other spring blade knife in the state of Washington. (No fixed blade knives whatsoever in Seattle), So a basic pocket knife, having a blade of 2″ or even less, can be illegal, if you get a hanging judge? That they have stood for so long illustrates the way that the Left has corrupted the courts with liberal activist judges. If you participate in any one of those things, you have no right to forbid others from doing likewise. ), State v. Bonebright, 2002 Wash. App. This knife opens using a thumb stud which is part of the blade (assisted opening?). Not sure why that is, but I’m just the messenger! If you don’t like legal speak, here are the basics of what knives are legal under Alabama knife laws. A pocket knife as defined by Wikipedia is a foldable knife with one or more blades that fit inside the handle that can still fit in a pocket. 4. WA knife laws aren't what you need to be concerned about so much as local laws. I leave now more confused than EVER!! I own one myself, and actually use it fairly often at work. Its closed length is 3 inches; its handle appears to be mother-of-pearl. Miles, 1995), what opinions and tea-leaves readings we have do not codify the law. Paid Subscribers don't see ... but I'm pretty sure that when they say "or other weapons", they include knives. The difference between Oregon’s knife laws and most other states is that Oregon relies on court decisions, rather in codified statutes. This means that one does not have to intend to cause alarm or fear in order to be guilty of a crime under the statute. So is this saying you can’t carry a knife around unless in your own home? I much prefer this style over my SOGS and Spydercos. Reading Time: 5 minutes Oregon Knife Laws While Oregon doesn’t top the list as the most knife-friendly state, it is certainly less restrictive than most. If people can see the sheath it is not concealed. It’s almost like they read every page of the Holy Bible and then specifically tried to do everything the opposite to the principles and commands in the Book!! (2) "Spring blade knife" means any knife, including a prototype, model, or other sample, with a blade that is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement. If a police officer tries the four finger rule, ask him to call a supervisor with larger hands. I think so but I can’t be sure. Is the clip on the outside of my pocket enough? Everything the firefighter told you is correct. Proceed with extreme care. Most likely No harm done. For myself, I would love to carry a sword in a traditional on-the-belt fashion, as I know several people that participate in Renaissance, SCA, and LARP events that want to dress up in traditional costume or armor. A fixed blade in a sheeth, folder on a clip in your pocket, a sling shot in your pocket, open carry of a firearm or concealed, someone gets a peek or even one who just wants to make an issue to cause trouble in your life. cheers, J. If you don’t have a concealed carry you are subject to the whims and preconceived notions of whatever officer of the law you happen to run into. I might accidentally intimidate a liberal commie and get into trouble if I use a knife. I found a great knife that did exactly what I wanted to do thanks to them. From unclear statutes that seemingly ban knives outright for the purposes of concealed carry to murky interpretations of common words and legal concepts including where your own home begins and ends, Washington proves once more there is no place so promising and beautiful that Leftist leadership can’t screw it up for everyone. (2) "Spring blade knife" means any knife, including a prototype, model, or other sample, with a blade that is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement. The cop was pretty cool, he said I could walk and he’d dispose of the knife. Had a friend make a coustom fixed blade. Is it legal to have a bayonet on a rifle? I’m not a fan of any folders and find that OTF knives aren’t practical . It is illegal to own a switchblade or other spring blade knife in the state of Washington. I live in a smallish west coast city, went to a pretty good high school, and only had room to take one practical elective – I chose drafting – and I wish like hell that I’d had more exposure to crafts. As for somebody somewhere complaining, the laws imply a reasonable person should be considered when determining if a behavior – such as open carry – is threatening or not. should we go for a sheath around our calves? But there is no statewide pre-emption of knife laws. Re: Knife Laws in Washington Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:07 am As I understand the state law allows one to carry a fixed blade knife as long as the knife is not a dagger or dirk. I can conceal a 3 foot long katana. If not, to you have any idea who may have the authority to grant me a permit or license to carry a switch blade? The answer is yes. We also despise the bullies and those who abuse their considerable authority. We should be concerned at every level of government. Also in 1994, the Court held, in State v. Byrd, that because the display of a weapon in a manner that caused reasonable fear or alarm could be done without intent, a violation of the statute did not require intent. Yes, we need all dangerous weapons and long knives out of many locations that require security. If the weapon is not concealed then it can cause reasonable fear, a concealed weapon cannot cause reasonable fear. Basically they can take you to jail for having any weapon all they have to say is some one was scared or offended, that’s their probably cause, that’s as bad if not worse than stop and frisk…. Your e-mail is 100% safe. Or am I free to sell it to anyone? It will continue unless every concerned citizen becomes an active citizen. And shortly no freedom of any kind, except what the state monitors dictate to one and all. What if the knife or gun is holstered or carried in a sheath on the belt? If you are wondering what constitutes “furtive” carry in Washington, keep wondering; there is no clear answer, and since case law and judge opinion has not yet solidified on the concept (see State vs. (e) Any person engaged in military activities sponsored by the federal or state governments. There is nothing on those knives I own one because it’s a handy tool for whatever you might need and it is also a good self defense weapon as you can use it with the sheath for an extention to your fist, or as a knife to deter anyone trying to cause trouble, they are fast and CAN do a lot of body damage but with proper training and self control you can turn a robbery at gunpoint into a citizens arrest in the blink of an eye. Discussion in 'Knife Laws' started by smoked1, Sep 13, 2008. A knife that contains a spring, detent, or other mechanism designed to create a bias toward closure of the blade and that requires physical exertion applied to the blade by hand, wrist, or arm to overcome the bias toward closure to assist in opening the knife is not a spring blade knife. I was told if it wasn’t longer than 6 inches but I’m wondering seeing he same question and also how old u have to be to carry one around. In those days and that place, whittling was a skill every boy had to learn. Additionally, since the passage of I-594, private sales of legal firearms between legal owners requires a background check. The Attorney General is required by law to publish a list of states with which Washington has reciprocity. Sometimes, it cannot actually be a full 3.5 inches to be legal. A knife that is legal to carry in Spokane may not be in Seattle. We are now afraid to carry pocket knives. . You’re putting someone’s future in the hands of some ultra-sensitive mouth-breather who is offended by the color of a street sign ONLY because they care about what other people think of them. Nope! Do you mean Serrated! RCW 9.41.250 has been amended, stating that an assist open knife is not considered a spring blade. Additionally, no-good, untrustworthy civilians employed by a knife maker or distributor of knives are allowed to possess the banned types for testing and demonstration. See what you talk about Dems being the exact opposites of your beliefs is a misnomer…. Knife laws in Washington are sort of descriptive but they are strict as well. cheers, J. I would not refer to an “ordinary” slip joint pocket knife as a weapon should one be stopped. You need to make it very clear what length of the blade of a pocket knife people are allowed to carry on their person so that they know ahead of time before going into the state. I haven't found such clear law advice anywhere else. If “intent” isn’t even necessary to allow the Peelers to throw you in the back of the black maria just because some overwrought liberal cat lady, who’d drank half a box of El Cheapo, and soiled her yoga pants at the sight of the buck knife hanging from your belt, I fail to see how you could carry anything openly (or you’re taking a big risk depending how sane the people are around you). As we walked away, I saw the cop walk over to the trash can, and place the switchblade in his pocket as he glanced around to see if anyone was looking, with a grin on his face. We need to be allowed to carry larger knives to protect ourselves from them! Actually, you’d be on private property, and your own to boot, so you’d have a very strong case that they were infringing on your rights more than you were on theirs. If the police officer asks “are you armed?”, the response is “no, but I do have a pocket knife that I carry as a too”. There is no preemption for knives in Washington State, though there is for firearms. Since it has “home rule” and all the attendant legislative powers that entails, D.C. has since installed its own laws and prohibitions covering all kinds of things. So be relaxed and don’t be stupid. You can own it, but don’t get caught carrying it outside your home, you would be asking for trouble if stopped. You can also keep the weapon locked in your car if you have a legitimate reason to be at the school and not a student. We love and respect the good ones and make them heros in our movies and extoll them in our headlines. you are the reason these silly laws exist! Because military, law enforcement, and handicapped are allowed to have them. No one is saying that merely owning or carrying a knife intimidates people. You have a Concealed Pistol License, as stated on the license itself. I hear you man. Now, if you want to try this with a “real” knife and not a bit of improvised kitchenware, I’m sure we can get a legal defense fund up for you. I’m a widow and need to be able to take care of myself. What about triangle or trench knives? It is illegal to own a switchblade or other spring blade knife in the state of Washington. Thank you for the info on assisted opening. I’m very “late” joining this discussion, but it has been mentioned that belt carry for a fixed blade, is not considered concealed in most Washington state locations (excluding the outright prohibition in Seattle.) Before you plan for carrying or possessing any knives outside, know the laws first. You believe in Freedom that shouldn’t be infringed upon, same here. Can you direct me to any supporting documentation on the handicapped exemption? laws about switchblade knifes are wrong.this is america, Knife laws can be defined by the state since there is no federal say against it, also counties/cities can define as well so no its not wrong and no this is the US, a country within the continent America. Should I only carry a gun in WA? The fact that could be easily and quickly opened suggested it was a weapon by design. If you are a knife owner, you must … (6) Except as provided in subsection (3)(b), (c), (f), and (h) of this section, firearms are not permitted in a public or private school building. Not good bro! A Katana on the back is pretty much a no-no, just do you know. @Geezer Man: No, “Conceal carry and display laws do not apply to those who are… defending themselves against a presently threatened use of unlawful force.”. Belt cutter and window blade would help, too. So, let’s say I wish to carry a 6″ or 7″ Smith and Wesson knife in a sheath on my belt, is that illegal? on your belt is fine. Can anyone simplify the knife laws for me? So what are they?! RCW 9.41.250 Dangerous weapons—Penalty. A knife on your hip is perfectly fine. Security freaked out when the xray scanners saw it. This important legislation makes Washington more friendly to knife owners and manufacturers by clarifying the definition of so-called "spring blade" knives (switchblades) so as to clearly make assisted-opening knives legal in the state. The Attorney General’s Office periodically reviews the laws of other states to determine whether those laws meet the requirements for Washington to reciprocally recognize a concealed pistol license or permit issued by those states. It is illegal to own a switchblade or other spring blade knife in the state of Washington. Current state law permits assisted openers, since July 2012. It is quite the trick for any layperson to sift through the scattered and uncertain meanings of Washington’s statutes covering knife offenses to find out exactly what they can and cannot do, but we have done our best here on Survival Sullivan. and can legaly carry A gun. Is open carrying a neck knife sold at a Washington state store and bought for the intended use of self defense or use as a tool illegal in the state of Washington? Agree’d. These knife laws are bizarre. But you’re not, because your premise – which is correct – is that there are laws covering the legal ownership and transfers of knives, while imagining that such rules don’t apply to firearms. That’s it. KnifeUp.com is a production of 3hree 6ixteen Net Assets, 3 Ways to Actually Sleep When Camping in a Hammock, Camping With Diabetes : A Beginner’s Guide, Best Hunting Knives : Folding and Fixed Blade, Buying Guides, Knife Life, Knives, Our Favorite Knives, "I've been looking for knife law guides for a while and your articles are amazing. Might be worth a look in any case. That doesn’t mean you won’t run afoul of idiotic municipal laws that conflict with state law. So is it illegal to own a fully functional sword cane if it’s used for decor in your house? Most of these knife laws are simply wrong and probably unconstitutional in many cases. All local city and county knife laws were pre-empted by Senate Bill 1153 which was signed into Law on 4/28/10. Stay in the eastern, more sensical and conservative side, and you should be fine. This is in effect as long as the knives are securely wrapped. It’s pretty easy to check the law in your city or county. There’s no law about that I know of but I remember being a teenager and a hardware store owner actually blocked me buying a pellet gun because he thought I wasn’t old enough. Only your everyday thug and Antifa terrorist will be carrying weapons and the latter with full blind eye of the police as they’re ordered to “stand down” by the various PC mayors. Washington Knife Laws? So would they be illegal to carry??? According to our WA State Constitution SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. (Like you can conceal that sucker…) There may be any number of other local laws that bite you in the a$$. Washington states laws could be interpreted to make just about any knife illegal. Yes, it is incredibly subjective. Chapter 9.41 RCW: Firearms and dangerous weapons; RCW 9.41.110: Firearms dealers license; RCW 9.41.070: Concealed pistol license; WAC 308-500-010: Semiautomatic assault rifle fee ), Remember ALWAYS that logic is not a necessary component of the law, See CIty of Seattle vs Montana (1996) and Seattle vs Evans (2015). I have not read the statute but this is my understanding of Washington State law. Last week, however, after several prior attempts at changing the law, Governor Cuomo finally signed a law that will change New York’s knife laws. Re: Knife Laws in Washington Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:07 am As I understand the state law allows one to carry a fixed blade knife as long as the knife is not a dagger or dirk. But your yard and garage is also private property just as your home is which would make it legal and thus should stand for most states and cities that you can legally possess these weapons outside your home. That’s my soapbox for today! (2) Any person violating the provisions of subsection (1) above shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor. No other knife is defined by the statutes or by the case law. It is all insanity. None of them have ever gotten in trouble with the police about this, even when having airsoft battles within a few miles of the biggest prison in the south sound region, where our state capitol is. Is this legal to carry? Ilegal Art! There are knives similar, to switch blades, in which the blade is initially drawn out of the handle by the force of your thumb but then a spring takes over to complete the opening. Honestly, all I want to do is carry a fixed blade (under 3.5”) with a larger/longer handle as my EDC. Your Washington DC laws link only goes to Washington State. You may not carry a KA-BAR in Seattle, for instance, open or concealed. (New law, in effect July 2012). (d) “Fire or rescue agency” means any agency, department, or division of a municipal corporation, political subdivision, or other unit of local government of this state or any other state, and any agency, department, or division of any state government, having as its primary function the prevention, control, or extinguishment of fire or provision of emergency medical services or rescue actions for persons. The Attorney General’s Office periodically reviews the laws of other states to determine whether those laws meet the requirements for Washington to reciprocally recognize a concealed pistol license or permit issued by those states. Even if you did have a permit, you’re still likely to have problems. Can you carry a conceaed knife. In 2017, Texas lawmakers repealed a ban on carrying some knives, including the Bowie knife. When something threatens my rights, KnifeUp is the first to inform me. It is legal to open carry any type of weapon, so long as it is not carried in a … You are very right i im no adult but I do know my rights and I Belive carring a switch blade is no different than any other knife as long as you know how to keep it out of others harm. Although I find this same problem, I don’t know what “Alarm” would entail or “concealment” because I might have it in a sheath or holster of some sort (holster referencing sheaths that resemble a gun holster, not a literal holster). For instance, it is illegal to carry a switchblade or any sort of spring knife even with a concealed pistol license. Senate Bill 6179 and House Bill 2347 would clarify the definition of a switchblade so as to not include assisted-opening knives that are currently adversely interpreted as being illegal in the state. The blade is 3 7/16 inches long. This includes pocket knifes, fixed blades, and spring assisted. “reasonable person” in Washington State is an oxymoron….. Ridiculous!!!!!! E pluribus unum, my friends. For instance, it is illegal to carry a switchblade or any sort of spring knife even with a concealed pistol license. The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. . The Attorney General is required by law to publish a list of states with which Washington has reciprocity. March 29, 2012: Washington Governor Chris Gregoire signed Knife Rights supported HB2347 into law this evening at a signing ceremony at the capitol. WA Knife Law (Bellingham Area) / Interpretation Discussion in 'Knife Laws' started by Honeywell, Aug 1, 2002. .? There is no specific length limit in state law. Each agency will update its pages with current information. Washington State is an exemplar of restrictive laws on the ownership and use of arms, and knives are no exception. RCW 9.41.290 makes no mention at all of knives or other dangerous weapons aside from firearms: The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Many of my friends practice martial arts, collect weapons, LARP, and otherwise swing “dangerous-looking” objects around. We are sorry that happened to you. I never understood the logic. So can I open carry a KA-BAR in Washington? I think we need to urge our legislators to revisit the assisted opening style of edged pocket tool. Is it legal to open carry a bowie knife and close carry. * This means that one does not have to intend to cause alarm or fear in order to be guilty of a crime under the statute.”. I can’t find it. 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